C3.ai Inc. (AI) 2025 Q1 Earnings Call Summary
September 4, 2024 C3.ai Inc. (AI)
Market Cap | 0.21T |
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Beta | |
P/E | 39.75452774136047 |
EPS | 12.247158441111395 |
Dividend | 0 |
Dividend Yield | 0.00% |
Optimistic Highlights
Exceeded Expectations
Exceeded all expectations for revenue, cash flow, and profitability in Q1 FY25.
Revenue Growth
Achieved 21% year-over-year revenue growth, marking the sixth consecutive quarter of accelerating growth.
Strong Customer Acquisition
Closed 71 agreements, including 72 new pilots, marking a 117% year-over-year increase in pilot count.
Positive Cash Flow
Generated $8 million in net cash from operating activities and $7.1 million in free cash flow.
High Customer Satisfaction
High levels of customer satisfaction and increasing demand for enterprise AI applications.
Pessimistic Highlights
GAAP Operating Loss
Reported a GAAP operating loss of $72.6 million.
Short-term Margin Pressure
Expected short-term pressure on gross margins due to a higher mix of pilots.
Free Cash Flow Negative
Expected to be free cash flow negative for Q2 and Q3 FY25.
Expense Growth
Year-over-year expense growth rate was 12%, which is lower than revenue growth but still significant.
Complex Business Modeling
Difficulty in modeling the business due to the complexity and variety of AI applications.
Company Outlook
Revenue Guidance
Revenue guidance for Q2 is $88.6 million to $93.6 million, maintaining previous guidance of $370 million to $395 million for FY25.
Path to Profitability
Expected to be cash flow positive in Q4 FY25 and for the entire fiscal year.
Expansion Focus
Focused on expanding sales capacity, North America, Europe, and the public sector.
Partner Network Growth
Significant growth in partner-supported bookings, particularly with Google Cloud.
Long-term Profitability
Believes revenue growth rates will generally exceed expense growth rates, leading to non-GAAP profitability.
Q & A Highlights
Q: Characterizing the Tone of Business in Q1 (Patrick Walravens, from JMP Securities)
A: The business environment is complex and dynamic, especially with the advent of generative AI. The company is finding a broad range of applications for enterprise AI, many of which were unanticipated. (Thomas Siebel)
Q: Why the Guidance Didn't Go Up Despite Strong Bookings (Patrick Walravens, from JMP Securities)
A: The current guidance still represents 19% to 27% revenue growth, making C3 AI one of the fastest-growing companies in the public software universe. (Hitesh Lath)
Q: Trends in Subscription Revenue and Professional Services (Timothy Horan, from Oppenheimer)
A: Subscription and services revenue will continue to bounce around 10% to 20%. Services margins are over 90%, making it a good business. (Thomas Siebel)
Q: Competitive Dynamics (Timothy Horan, from Oppenheimer)
A: The main competition is the IT organizations trying to build applications themselves, which often come back to C3 AI after failing. (Edward Abbo)
Q: Size and Value of Pilots (Michael Latimore, from Northland Capital Markets)
A: The value of enterprise AI pilots is about $0.5 million, and generative AI pilots are about $0.25 million. Approximately 70% of pilots convert to production contracts. (Thomas Siebel)
Q: Confidence in Q2 Revenue Growth (Michael Latimore, from Northland Capital Markets)
A: The guidance is based on the best professional judgment, and the company has consistently met or exceeded guidance in the past. (Thomas Siebel)
Q: Partner Efforts Outside of GCP (Kingsley Crane, from Canaccord Genuity)
A: Relationships with AWS, Microsoft Azure, and other partners are strong, contributing significantly to the business. (Thomas Siebel)
Q: State and Local Agreements (Kingsley Crane, from Canaccord Genuity)
A: Most state and local agreements start as pilots and then convert to production. (Thomas Siebel)